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709karl

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Greetings,  I'm appreciating the projects and boats on your site! ...will try to be a productive addition. The 57 Plymouth is a great car, remember them new. I'll try to attach a pic. of my boat which is in a stage of just-painted. It was the standard mess when I got it last fall. Now need most of the hardware, windshield, emblems, etc. Any advice or HELP would be appreciated.  The boat is pretty much identified as a 58 Glass Majic.  Thanks, Karl

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Welcome aboard Karl:  Thank you for your post, the boat looks beautiful!  The color looks very much like my Meteor.  I found upholstery vynal that color from Peach Tree Fabrics.  

I went ahead and re-sized your photo and attached it to the original post.  Now it can be viewed all at once without scrolling from left to right.  

I have good luck with the more common or universal parts such as lights, cleats, instruments, horns, etc. on eBay.  Anything unique to that model however, such as aluminum castings, or name plates will have to located on a boat someone is parting out, or more likely borrowed from another collector and copied.  I do a lot of reproductions for just that reason.  let us know how you do at finding the missing pieces and if you can locate anything to copy!

Finless Bob:  You had this model recently, do you think we could borrow the scripts from the new owner for reproduction?

I have some windshields, where are you located, Karl?

Thanks again Karl for the beautiful picture.  We would love to see more!
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I've found 3 Glass Magics. A Playmaster, Siren and a perfect, all original Vixen. I've passed them along to some pretty serious restorers and collectors. Not a lot is known about the company. There's almost no word of mouth about the plant. I theorize that most of them were made in Indiana. Yours is proabably a Ski Master model. Found one like yours last week in Indiana being used as sign holder for a boat repair shop.   It does have the Skimaster metal logos that could be coaxed out of the shop owner for a few bucks probably. 

 

 

 

 

The photo labeled white magic is the Siren.   Joe Wallace is a forum member and owns the really fantastic model Glass Magic,  The Banshee.   Joe hoped to have some of the metal logos reproduced .  Roger Salle bought my Playmaster and agreed to reproduce some of the logos.   I'll be contacting him soon and post his remarks here or better yet, invite him to the forum.   Roger gave the Playmaster (with the biggest of the Magic Fins) to Dave The Wave (see amphicar video at boatsinthebelfry.com)  It may show up at the Beloit All Classics fully restored.  I've been unable to contact the buyer of the Siren, but it had some great logos in good condition that he had planned to reproduce.  I'll attempt to re-contact him. 

 

A user group called the Glass Magicians or the Wizards should be started someday.  The boats had very heavy, glass construction and beautiful styling.

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Thanks for the responses, very much interested and appreciated!  ...will keep you up on progress,  Karl
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Thank you Mr. Kevfin,   I live in Florida, sort of out of the link, it seems, with most of the finnists. I would like to latch onto a windshield, if you have the right type...can send dimensions etc along.  I'll get some other pictures along. Thanks, Karl
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Thanks for the emblem thoughts, Bob.  If the man using the G.M. for a sign will part with his,  I'd be super-happy to buy them.  I've been trying to research Glass Magic lately since my dirtiest chores are done and can enjoy the frosting. I'm sure it is a ski-master but a little unlike most other models shown. I'll try to forward a pic. from another site of a model that seems like mine even though the fellow is turning it into a car body. I'd also love to find the front medallion, faux bow Scoop trim (or whatever) it's called.  I'll keep you up on progress,  pax, Karl
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Here's the photos of the one in Indiana.   It's somewhere around Martinsville south of Indiannapolis.  I've seen lot's of boats in worse shape - fully restored.

 

You might have to buy the guy a new sign boat. 

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This little project is taking a little longer than expected. But I know have 1959 Mercury to go with it. Proper cable steering, airguide gauges. Iam thinking bright orange and white. Just another gallon of filler, a gallon of primer and a thousand yards of sand paper. Another year is zooming by. I am hoping to go to Your Beloit show. If The Playmaster looks like a boat I will drag it up. Let me know if you need to borrow emblems.Later Dave the Wave

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Dave, here's some videos I found, you'll like.

 

 

 

 

The host of this show quotes the fiberglassics library and the belfry archives for the manufacturer as Marine Plastics in Texas.   But, the Glass Magic boat line was adopted by the aluminum boat company, Duratech which opened the fiberglass division plant in Indiana.  The plant burned in 1961 - the 61 Siren I posted a photo of, was probably one of the last boats built.   They did make a beautiful Day Cruiser and I think I've seen some of those in existence but can't recall where.  Additional info may be available from the Duratech Boat Company's info page and contact address.

 

The most beautiful Playmaster in the country is the one in Oregon, restored by a professional designer who installed a jet-ski motor - which really shows off the great rear end design of the boat.   I haven't located the photos of it in my pictures yet,  but I'll keep looking.   In 61 they changed the flying fish logo to plastic.    The great metal dash logo was not used on all models or years but would look swell on any GM boat.    In the later years they went to the  GLASS MAGIC   style lettering logo.   Somebody needs to make a mold of the full size flying fish plastic logo and cast it in aluminum.


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Hey Guys,  I'm not sure whether my replies have gotten through or not so a duel response, mucho thanks to Dave & Bob.  I contacted the sign-boat lead in Indiana and may have to buy the whole boat to get emblems and trim.  It's the identical model to mine which is really interesting.  I would be happy to purchase the correct-type windshield and/or copy trim pieces, especially the nose medallion. My friend & neighbor owns a upholstery  shop & we're planning a great interior...is mahogany trim inappropriate?   THANKS AGAIN, GREAT SITE.   Karl

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It's your thing, do what ya wanna do.   There was seldom any wood showing in these boats.   They sometimes used a bit of mahogany in the bracing but even there, it was usually plywood.   There were some great hybrid boats made with mahogany decks and "low-maintenance" glass hulls by Century and Chris Craft.

One guy showed up at several of the Shows with a faux woodgrain finish on his deck.  It looked real nice but wasn't fooling anyone.   There is generally, no precedent for mahogany on most of the, pardon the term "fiberglassics."

 

I'll leave discussion of finishes to people who know more than I do.  Your finish looks really good.   What I've heard from other people is:

 

Use gelcoat to be authentic or if you plan to use the boat a lot. 

Don't use enamels if you plan to spill any gas on the boat.

Car finishes chip with frequently used boats.

If you plan to dock your boat all summer, use epoxy finish or anti-fouling hull treatments.  Use approved hull treatments for salt water use. 

 

NOTE:   There's a new line of organic epoxy gelcoats in testing phase by a Florida boat manufacturer and may be available later this summer from ecopoxy. (see the link at http://www.americanclassicspeedboats.com)  Spray without any special safety equipment.  Leave your boat in the water.  Sounds great.


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Does not look like much yet. Plenty of delays. Hull now has new transom and restored keel. Along with plenty of holes glassed up. Plus after a few hoops I got My Illinois numbers. Maybe next week I can finish up adding flotation foam. I should start looking for control cables. It has been fun looking for "bling"

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Looks great.   That's a perfect bow light for the boat.  Motor looks beautiful.   We'll meet you up at Springfield Lake for a run this summer if you get her going.  We'll have our aluminum runabout done and maybe our Glastron.
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Very similar to my 1956 Sportmaster. Hard to tell with the trim stripped and the nice paint job on yours...lol
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