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Hi all ,
I'm starting a post for my current work in progress.It is my 59 Glastron fireflite.I figured Ill start with the boring lecture of what Iv done show some pictures and then ask a bunch of silly questions.I'm hopeing for some detailed opinions,answers ,possibly learning and applly some of your knowedge into it.Frist let me say I'm a hands on guy not a very good writer so please excuse the 5th grade level spelling and grammer.I started by removing the cap and getting to the transom I decided to raise it to a modern 20inch and run my 86' 75hp mercury with Pwr T/T. I chose it because it has the old clamshell style without the headaches of the old dockbusters and distirbutor style mercs.I will be painting and chroming it to look like a Mark78.This lead to fairing out the glass to the new height and makeing it all one level.The new transom was layed with a layer of 1708 between the frist peice of 3/4 marine grade ply and the old glass.Next was another layer of 1708 and the next piece of 3/4.I then layed a piece of 2oz csm over it to seal it off from the weather (doin this in the yard so mother nature makes the rules and shcedual).I then discovered that this made the transom 1/4 thicker than original opps ! Well it is a 5hp more and a bit heaver soo beefer is better I think.As you probally guess next was to cut the splash well take out a 1/4 and reglass it.Next dellema was or should say is 5he new height still working on getting it right.So if any of you are still reading I thank you here are some pics to give you an idea and Ill follow with the silly questions.

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I do bave more pics that show more progress with the fairing ,building of transom glass almost complete. For now I hope some of you are still with me after my long winded intro haha.After playing in the boat I wasnt satisfied with the structure of the floor. The floor surprisingly isn't roted like i though. I cut out the last few inches of the two stringers to make the transome installation a bit easy/neater. Out side the plywood and stringers is just the hull for about 8-10 inches until the sidewall of the boat.I'm 5'11 180lb and I could feel it flex under my weight.What do you think about coring the floor? My last boat was a core and when i rebuilt it the hull was very sound and didnt flex at all.A friend i made that races hydrostreams told me about a shop near me that does fiber core and that it is much ligther and stronger than the balsa I layed in my skiflite. This is my next big hurdel what dou you think ?Thanks for your time and I hope to hear from alot of you guys .
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Thanks for posting. Hammond used metal stringers in some models that worked pretty well but our local boat dealer who sold the whole Central Midwest,, refused to sell early Glastrons because they weren't cored. The flip side is that cores rot naturally due to moisture entrapment. Foam cores sound good to me but most of the collectors try to stay with balsa as origninal to the Redfish, Allisons, and countless others. Everyone here knows more about this subject than me,, but they also have strong opinions that vary.
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Thanks Bob , as a gear head and hotroder I understand those who feel orginal is the best ,and respect that every one has there own opion on the matter.I'm just glad some one replyed haha.I was really hoping to hear from more of the fin city folks about there experience in both fields balsa or new age stuff like foam and fibercores.I will be the frist to admit its not a true original restoration, but I promiss Im keeping all the period corect Flare.I dont like the way the floor feels and dont feel comfortable putting family and friends in it with out renforcing the floor be it a coreing material or some other form of structual reinforcment. Thanks again for taking the time to read my post in the mean time heres some more pics.
PS: That fuzzy dude is my best friend and also my co pilot,cocaptian,frist mate what ever you call the guy riding shotgun with you in a boat haha

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Dang still no advice on the restoration and build .... O well now that the warm weather has passed not having a garge has brought the project to a halt.I am still working on the few things i can but its just to cold to do any glass and resin work. Ill be posting a few more pics of the other work I did get done and things I acompilsh this winter. More to come still hope to hear from anyone with advice on my floor and windshield . The wind shild is cracked and a bit short for the hardtop but a local glass company owner said he may be able to make one for me and is excited and willing to help . Thanks again all hope to hear some feed back soon.
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Hi  I am better with a phone than keyboard  if I can give you my opinion call me  home 309 7472452  days 309 747 2886   Bill
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Hi Fever:  I have to apologize for the late reply, been a crazy summer for me!  These old Glastron's were very well made so I don't worry too much about the bottom of the hull.  The floors are another matter, often they were fairly thin in places and rotted out over the years.  I have had the same experience with them feeling squishy as you have.  I solved this in my big Sea Flight by simply glassing in a 1/2 inch plywood floor.  I didn't put anything underneath it and it worked fine.  On my Pink and White Meteor I took the additional step of cutting out access holes and spraying in 2 part spray foam insulation and replacing the cut outs.  Never use "Great Stuff"  It is a one part foam and will soak up water.  Two part foam can as well, but it is much more water resistant.  Afterward, I concluded that the job I did on the Meteor was over-kill.  I have also done boats with Balsa core floor and while I like this approach, I don't think it adds any advantage over the plywood in the case of a classic Glastron.  If you like you could do 5/8 inch plywood for greater strength.  I have some restoration tips on the site located here  Good luck and thanks for the posting!

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Thanks guys,
Bill I would love to to talk to you about some of your projects and pick your brain on dos and dont with mine.I live on the east coast what time zone are you in I wouldent want to call you 9 my time and have it be 6 yours haha.

Kevin frist let me say congrads to you and Becca on your frist little one hope brain is happy and healthy.Im surprised you have the time to stay current with all your projects and the fourm as well as you do.I am going to core the floor I just havent chossen with what yet.There is a local shop that cores with vacum bag for reasonable prices and it would be much better than any hand lay I could do.Before the end of this winter I will get prices and shedual them to do my floor I belive. I will keep updating as i get more info thanks all again.

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Plexi repair can be done with a special syringe using MEK (methyl chloride).   Spread and fill the crack with the (very dangerous) solvent.   Don't use too much because everything that runs out of the crack will melt the surrounding plexi.    Sand, rub and buff out results using sequentially diminishing abrasives.  
Despite possible luck with no coatings on replacement plywood on floors, I would suggest coating everything in the bilge with epoxy which unlike fiberglass, IS waterproof  (penetrating epoxy for the plywood underside and medium viscosity for the bow side).   Be sure to leave a vent hole toward the bow to let air through to vent our the drain holes.  Condensation can create a lot of liquid in those areas even if the boat never goes in the water.  

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