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We've always wanted a 57 or 58 Herters Deluxe with the tall fins so when we recently sold our 1959 Herters Mark III we started looking for another Herters to restore.   

Jackie and I, along with Del and Diane  Vanemmrik, had stopped at a restaurant for lunch in northern Minnesota last summer on our way to the boat show at Gull Lake.  When we finished eating and went back outside a woman and her husband were looking at our 59 Herters.  She said that she had one just like it stored at their lake home and it had been in her family since it was new.   Her husband disagreed with her and said her boat was similar, but not exactly the same as ours.   I told her if she would email me pictures of it, I would try to identify it for her. 

She did, and it turned out to be a 1957 Herters Flying Fish that was complete except for the windshield.   It appeared to be in restorable condition, even after being stored outside, upside down, for the last 20-30 years.   It even had the original red and green lights in the bow casting!  I have been trying to find a decent 57 Flying Fish to restore for a few years.   Talk about coincidence!

It took almost ten months to convince her to sell it to us.  Just last week she finally decided to sell it,  but her price had a strange twist in it.  She would give us the boat if we donated a thousand dollars to her favorite charity, and we have to attach a small plaque on the boat with her father listed as the original owner.

Not a problem.  We wrote out the check to the charity, she will provide the plaque, and we picked up the boat.  She seemed pleased that the boat was going to be restored instead of rotting away behind their lake place. And we offered to bring the the boat to her lake home for a day this summer for a reunion of the boat with all the family members that had learned to water ski and fish in the boat.  

Now the fun begins.  We have to decide on colors for the boat and what type of motor and trailer to use.   We have pretty well decided, at least for now, that it will have a Mercury dockbuster and a Tee Nee trailer.  A Scott may be in it's future, but I have a dockbuster almost ready to go, and I would have to build a Scott from scratch.

If everything goes together without too many problems, it could be done at the end of June, or hopefully earlier.

 

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Great story and a great find!  Thanks for the picture, please keep us updated.  This is sure to be an excellent restoration and I can't wait to see it in person some time.  Be sure and get some pictures of the boat / owner reunion when that happens, it sounds like a once and a lifetime event.  What do you have in mind for colors?

-KevFin
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Kevin,

The boat was originally light blue, both top and bottom, and that doesn’t seem to be a really eye catching color so we decided to change it.  We mainly show our boat, and only put it in the water occasionally at shows and for boat parades so the colors should stand out.

The 59 Herters we sold was stock Herters pink and white when we bought it.  We pulled with our 1955 Imperial that has a light brown bottom and a coral top.  It looked pretty good with the pink and white boat.   With the new boat, we have the opportunity to paint the boat to match the car, we can paint it stock Herters colors, or we can make it something completely different.

Right now we are leaning towards keeping the boat in stock Herters colors rather than matching the car.    The only colors listed in the 1956 through 1958 Herters catalog for the Flying Fish were tanager red, jet black, marine green, Bermuda blue, teal blue, flamingo pink, and sea green.  It wasn't until 1959 that they added gull white, beige, deep yellow, navy blue, wine, silver gray, and dark brown. 

We really want to keep the boat original as possible, so we decided to go with 1957 colors.

After collecting a lot of pictures off the web of 1957 Herters we decided (still subject to change) to go with pink and black for a number of reasons.  The first is that nothing says “the fifties” like pink.  I was in high school in 1955 when Ford brought out the pink and black colors on their hardtops, and in 55 and 56 they sold a bunch of them.   Then we saw a picture on internet of Brian Fenwicks 57 pink and black Herters on a TeeNee trailer at a Beloit show many years ago, and it really stands out.  I believe that you may have taken that picture because it looks like your red/black 57 is on it too.  Another reason for pink and black was that of all the 1957 Herters pictures I collected, there seemed to be more pink and black ones than any other color combo.   They must have been as popular on boats back then as they were on the Fords.

So, for right now at least, it will have a black hull and a pink deck.  We are probably going to use gelcoat so getting the pink tinted correctly might be a challenge.

I’ve attached a pic of our 55 Imperial with the 59 pink and white Herters,  one of Fenwicks pink and black 57.

 

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Herter's also sold trailers for their boats. They were unique - torsion suspension. In Minn or Wisc it might be easier to find one. I used to ave one that I got with my grey Flying Fish, a tandem model. They also sold a single  axle? model
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Herter's also sold trailers for their boats. They were unique - torsion suspension. In Minn or Wisc it might be easier to find one. I used to ave one that I got with my grey Flying Fish, a tandem model. They also sold a single  axle? model
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Kevin,

The boat was originally light blue, both top and bottom, and that doesn’t seem to be a really eye catching color so we decided to change it.  We mainly show our boat, and only put it in the water occasionally at shows and for boat parades so the colors should stand out.

The 59 Herters we sold was stock Herters pink and white when we bought it.  We pulled with our 1955 Imperial that has a light brown bottom and a coral top.  It looked pretty good with the pink and white boat.   With the new boat, we have the opportunity to paint the boat to match the car, we can paint it stock Herters colors, or we can make it something completely different.

Right now we are leaning towards keeping the boat in stock Herters colors rather than matching the car.    The only colors listed in the 1956 through 1958 Herters catalog for the Flying Fish were tanager red, jet black, marine green, Bermuda blue, teal blue, flamingo pink, and sea green.  It wasn't until 1959 that they added gull white, beige, deep yellow, navy blue, wine, silver gray, and dark brown. 

We really want to keep the boat original as possible, so we decided to go with 1957 colors.

After collecting a lot of pictures off the web of 1957 Herters we decided (still subject to change) to go with pink and black for a number of reasons.  The first is that nothing says “the fifties” like pink.  I was in high school in 1955 when Ford brought out the pink and black colors on their hardtops, and in 55 and 56 they sold a bunch of them.   Then we saw a picture on internet of Brian Fenwicks 57 pink and black Herters on a TeeNee trailer at a Beloit show many years ago, and it really stands out.  I believe that you may have taken that picture because it looks like your red/black 57 is on it too.  Another reason for pink and black was that of all the 1957 Herters pictures I collected, there seemed to be more pink and black ones than any other color combo.   They must have been as popular on boats back then as they were on the Fords.

So, for right now at least, it will have a black hull and a pink deck.  We are probably going to use gelcoat so getting the pink tinted correctly might be a challenge.

I’ve attached a pic of our 55 Imperial with the 59 pink and white Herters,  one of Fenwicks pink and black 57.

 

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Kevin,

The boat was originally light blue, both top and bottom, and that doesn’t seem to be a really eye catching color so we decided to change it.  We mainly show our boat, and only put it in the water occasionally at shows and for boat parades so the colors should stand out.

The 59 Herters we sold was stock Herters pink and white when we bought it.  We pulled with our 1955 Imperial that has a light brown bottom and a coral top.  It looked pretty good with the pink and white boat.   With the new boat, we have the opportunity to paint the boat to match the car, we can paint it stock Herters colors, or we can make it something completely different.

Right now we are leaning towards keeping the boat in stock Herters colors rather than matching the car.    The only colors listed in the 1956 through 1958 Herters catalog for the Flying Fish were tanager red, jet black, marine green, Bermuda blue, teal blue, flamingo pink, and sea green.  It wasn't until 1959 that they added gull white, beige, deep yellow, navy blue, wine, silver gray, and dark brown. 

We really want to keep the boat original as possible, so we decided to go with 1957 colors.

After collecting a lot of pictures off the web of 1957 Herters we decided (still subject to change) to go with pink and black for a number of reasons.  The first is that nothing says “the fifties” like pink.  I was in high school in 1955 when Ford brought out the pink and black colors on their hardtops, and in 55 and 56 they sold a bunch of them.   Then we saw a picture on internet of Brian Fenwicks 57 pink and black Herters on a TeeNee trailer at a Beloit show many years ago, and it really stands out.  I believe that you may have taken that picture because it looks like your red/black 57 is on it too.  Another reason for pink and black was that of all the 1957 Herters pictures I collected, there seemed to be more pink and black ones than any other color combo.   They must have been as popular on boats back then as they were on the Fords.

So, for right now at least, it will have a black hull and a pink deck.  We are probably going to use gelcoat so getting the pink tinted correctly might be a challenge.

I’ve attached a pic of our 55 Imperial with the 59 pink and white Herters,  one of Fenwicks pink and black 57.

 

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Well Kevin, it has been almost three years since I started this project.  It’s been a long journey, but it looks like it should be ready for some cruising and shows this summer.

The first pic shows the boat right after Del Vanemmrik did the glasswork and gelcoating.  We finally settled on pink and black.

We were test fitting the deck and then took it back off and I mounted it on my car lift so I could install all the equipment and accessories from below.  That saved a lot of time.

Next is the 1958 60HP Scott I restored.  I also restored a single lever control box for it that Scott introduced that year.  I was going to use a dockbuster, but the dockbuster is a little heavier than a Scott and with the absence of splashwell, I decided to use the Scott.

The next is the deck mockup for the accessories.  The radio is from a 1955 Ford.

Next is the aluminum hull structure after I did the welding and restoration.

And the last is a pic of the Herters step pads.  I poured them off an original Del had.  

Not exactly sure when I will be completely done, but I am hoping for May.  

I'm not sure all my photos uploaded. 


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Sure is pretty,it will be worth the wait,,Bill
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Fabulous!  I love the color combo, very popular in those years, it really matches the period!  The workmanship is wonderful as always, I had the good fortune to see it in person during the restoration and was very impressed with the attention to detail.  This will be a real treat to see it done!

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Nancy and I took several pictures of Bryan's fish at some early Fiberglassics Nationals when they were near Kevin's house.  Here's several.

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